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14 Dec

What wheels i ride and why

Posted by Bold Apps

I have alot of bikes and that means even more wheels. None a factory made all I have built myself. 

Lets start with the MTB's. 

Kenesis FF29 

Carbon Tubular 330g rims 28H front and rear laced with sapim laser spokes, alloy nipples and Miche disc brake hubs. These were there first road/CX disc brake hubs and they have done just fine. I run Dugast MTB tubulars on these. Currently a fast bird ori front and an enrst ori rear. These are tubeless tubular tyres so the best of all worlds. Wheelset weight is 1417g I could save a bit of weight by rebuilding with carbon ti hubs but whats the point they are light enough, very stiff and have not gone wrong yet. total mileage 15/10/2017 5200km. They have been ridden in all year round with either Dugast or Geax tubular tyres. I have a stash of Schwalbe Racing Ralphs as well bought cheap of a german website so I will keep rolling for some time to come. 

The tubular tyres offer grip that normal tubeless tyres in 2.0" width can't deliver. I Don't have space for a tyre bigger than a 2.2" so a 2.0" tyre gives me more mud clearance. Punctures have not been a big problem as I have been able to ride on a flat tub when i have punctured. The Dugast Ori tyre though are superb in every way, light and oh so comfortable. Grip is stellar. 

If I was building again I would use 24 spoke hubs/rims but I am not so i won't. 

Gary Fisher Ferrous

This bike is set up as a single speed and has two wheelsets. 

Winter/mud wheels Velocity blunt 35 (35mm wide rims), XTR M975 hubs and Sapim Race spokes/brass nipples. Tyres are quite heavy Geax Barro mud 2.3" with schwalbe pro core. Weight who cares I have these infalted to 12 psi front and 14 psi rear. Grip and control over rough ground is very controlled which is what I want. Grip in the mud is good too but there is not of clearance with it is claggy and my wheels can jam in the fields if there is straw mixed with clay. Well I suppose bricks are made of that so the bike may not be too blame. 

Summer wheels 32H Ryde trace trail 25 (25mm internal width), sapim laser spokes/alloy nipples XTR M985 hubs. Weight 1650g. The rims are asymmetric and the wheels are very stiff but the rims do not accept tubeless specific tyres. I can only fit conti. i normally use Conti race kings or moutain Kings 2.2". I really want to fit IRC Serrac CX tyres and some of there other models but I can't unless I re-rim which I need to to turn them into BORG23/XTR wheelset. 

The wheels may force me to use tyres that are O.K but the wheels are very stiff and the ride well. 

I have some 29er Ambrosio Tubular Disk rims (yes that is how it is Ambrosio did the spelling). These are 32H and I need to build these up and mount the Geax Saguaro Tubs to these. 

Retro MTB wheels

Trek 8900 1992

26" Mavic X517 rims 28H, XTR M950 hubs silver Sapim race spokes and alloy nipples. I hardly ever ride this bike as the components cannot be replaced easily. 

Scott Pro Racing 1992?

26" 32H Mavic 117 front and 317 rear sapim laser spokes and Shimano XT M730/2 hubs. used a fair bit but not much now as modern MTB's are simply better.

I have a set of pair of wolber 26" MTB tubular rims. I need to build these up with a pair of XT M730/2 hubs i have. I have a pair of Geax Saguro tubulars (3 perhaps), 2 racing ralph and a pair of old Vittoria Avocet tubs. These tyres can be ridden at lower pressure (mid 20's PSI) and are therefore far more comfortable and controlable on rough ground. That is what stops me riding these old bikes. 

Road bikes

Pinarello Monviso

This lovely bike from the early 90's has a Dura Ace 8 speed groupset and has a wheelset that suits. 

32F/36R Ambrosio Nemesis rims, Sapim laser spokes, brass nipples and Shimano Dura Ace HB-7400/FH-7403 hubs. These are not light @1850g but the ride with Vittoria Pave tubulars is sublime. The Ambrosio rims are excellent all weather rims as the brake track is non machined. This means it wears at a much slower rate than machined sidewall rims. Wet braking is pretty good too. 

Traitor Exile

This is a wet weather winter club run bike. As such i have put the most inappropriate wheelset in this bike. I must fit something else.

20F/24R Pacenti V1 SL23 rims, sapim laser spokes front, race rear, alloy nipples and Royce carbon/Ti hubs drilled for 2:1 lacing. Yes that is hubs with Ti flanges and carbon shells. Frankly they are jewellery and are wasted on this bike. The wheels have IRC roadlite tubeless tyres. The ride is sublime and the wheels are really quite stiff. When the rims crack they will be built into a set of BORG50C wheels. Weight 1600g

Trek 2300

This is a bike I love riding. It is not that quick (my position is more upright on this bike to the extreme length of the headtube) but it is pleasent never the less. 

I have a couple of wheelsets for this bike and soon there will be a third. Tubular tyres are used with this bike. I find them quite dependable.

28F/28R HED Belgium  C2 tubular rims, sapim CX-ray spokes, silver Campagnolo record 1999-2006 hubs. Weight ~ 1530g. These wheels have Continental Competition 25mm tubular tyres which are durable and puncture resistant shame they are not that comfortable. The ride of these tubs is quite harsh. When I wear them out I will fit some IRC Formula pro team tubs. Maybe I will do that sooner than later. 

32F/32R FIR tubular rims, Sapim sprint spokes and Campagnolo Chorus hubs. weight is around 1600g. I use these wheels over winter and have a set of 25mm Gatorskin sprinter tubs fitted to them. The wheels are fine to ride but the tyres have a numbing feeling to the ride. If I find them time I will swap the tubs for something else. 

BORG38T carbon tubular wheels. 38mm deep 20.5mm wide 18F/24R silver sapim CX-ray spokes and Hope Ti Glide Glide hubs. Weight 1230g. There are a set of Veloflex made schwalbe tyres 22mm wide on them. Lovely wheels to ride although in the wind they do get caught a bit. 

yet to be built 32F/32R Velocity Escape rims, Silver sapim CX-ray or laser spokes, Campagnolo Chorus hubs 1999-2006 weight ~1500g. These will have a nice set of Dugast strada tubs fitted to them. 

1999 Klein Quantum

This is a mad bike so it get a mad wheelset. As the bike has a Shimano 7700 Dura Ace groupset it has to have matching hubs. 

So 12F/12R yes 12 spoke Dura Ace hubs laced to 88mm deep carbon rims with sapim Cx ray spokes laced 1x for the rear wheel. The wheelset weighs 1530g and has 22mm Continental GP4000sII tubular tyres fitted. the ride is fairly harsh and wider more supple tubs are needed. the wheels though are lovey to ride on. they dont feel quick but average speed when riding them is not slow either. They are simply mad wheels for a mad bike. 

 Look 795

This is the race/TT bike so it get the BORG50C wheels. 50mm deep 26.2mm wide. This set are built with Miche Primato hubs and are the first test set I built. They are currently used with IRC tubeless tyres. Weight 1650g and this set have over 10,000 miles on them. Even in strong winds the bike is stable. 

I have another set of these with Miche SWR hubs. weight is 1600g

Sannio -1991

This is an older steel bike with modern kit on it. It is a race bike really.

Currently there is a set of BORG22's on there but in 20F/24R spoke count. Tubeless tyres of course. Weight 1565g and they feel just right for this bike. 

Look KG221

This old bike has a set of wheels that I i would not want to build for anyone but me. 32F/32R Mavic GEL 280 rims (280g in weight), sapim race spokes and Novatec A291/F172 hubs. The wheels weigh under 1400g and they are wheel I ride gently on. They feel a bit flexy in tight bends at speed. How people raced on them I have no idea and I think i am way past the weight limit for these wheels. There are currently Vittoria Corsa SC 23mm tubular tyres on the bike. these wear out and puncture quite easily so they wont be on there for too long except I ride this bike only a few times every year. 

Alan 1981

This wheelset has the only hoops built by someone else. Mr Buick from Ipswich probably back int he 70's. 32F/32R Super Champion Arc De Ciel rims on Campagnolo Record hubs. They have 22mm Conti Gatorskin sprinter tyres on which must be replaced with Dugast tanwall strada tyres. These feel light and a whole lot stiffer than the Mavics above.

Vitus 992

For this bike which has a Mavic groupset a Mavic wheelset has been built with CXP14 rims and Mavic MR601 hubs. Weight is unknown I forgot to weigh them. I will have to ride this bike more to test IRC road clincher tyres. 

Hill climb special

This is my light weight hill climb bike. Wheels are currently BORG38T 38mm deep tubular wheels with Carbon Ti hubs that weigh 1020g. There is a lighter set I want to build with Titanium spokes and an Extralite rear hub and a M5 front. Rims will be probably be a shallow carbon tubular. This is more a to play about with how light I can go and still have a stiff reliable wheelset. Sub 900g is quite possible sub 800g is viable with compromises.

1948 Raleigh Record Ace

This is a fixed gear bike with 32F/40R wooden rims on 40's Solite hubs. the rims are not that round which is a shame so they have big Challange Strada 30mm tubulars on them. the hop is only noticeable at speeds I dare not ride at. 

Sarto

This bike has a 18f/24R wheelset using Miche supertype hubs and Pacenti SL23 V1 rims. The wheels weigh 1400g and are quite stiff. IRC tubeless tyres are fitted and the wheels. 

1962 Dawes Town bike

this needs an overhall with a dynamo hub front hub with drum brake and a 3 speed sturney archer hub rear with coaster brake. it is a town bike. currently it has wheels with a coaster brake rear only hence I don't ride it.

Genesis Equilibrium Disc

This is the commuter bike. It weighs 15kg with pannier and some load. It is often carries more load. It is used most days. so given the load you might expect high spoke count wheels but you would be wrong. 24F/24R Velocity aileron rims, sapim Cx-ray spokes and Novatec D711/D712 hubs. I built these a few years ago and they current have IRC tubeless tyres on them. The wheels weigh 1545g and are stiff and have over 10,000 km on them. I built them to find out if 24 spoke light disc brake wheels are reliable with load. they have passed that test. 

 

 


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